One of the comments on my last post asked:
A lot of our dance groups over here love to dance the partnered dance sea shells The song “Blue night” by Michael learns to Rock sings the song they dance to. Is there a list on your data base of similar songs to that one that they can also dance Sea Shells to?
This question lead me down one of those beautiful rabbit holes that dance often does.
I had never heard of this dance, but I looked it up and found a YouTube video with the choreographer demonstrating the dance. It was 32 counts (four 8-counts) danced line of dance using a vocabulary that I’m not familiar with but would guess was some flavor of country dance.
Now, when I was learning to lead as a ballroom dancer, my teacher often put together a few eight counts of choreography that I could use so that I wouldn’t have to think as much about what my next move was and concentrate instead on leading my partner and making sure I didn’t run into anyone (or step on my partner’s feet). I understand this is a common technique in the Ballroom community. I ran across similar methods when learning social dances in group classes. So my first instinct was – this is just a slightly more formalized version of that technique – and it has the advantage that your follow knows that you will be doing this same sequence, so the lead should be much easier.
Following that thread, I listened to the song more closely and counted it out. It’s about 97BPM 4/4 and had the feel of an International Rumba or Bolero to me. This gave me the first level answer to the question of what else would someone play if people wanted to dance “Sea Shells” – I went to Advanced Search and selected Bolero and Rumba, limited the tempo to 95-99 BPM (an arbitrary bracket around 97 BPM) and sorted by the most popular – that resulted in this list. I’m convinced that someone who learned “Sea Shells” could dance it to any of the top songs on the list.
But I felt like I was missing something fundamental about this type of dance, and I dug deeper. I didn’t have to do much searching to find a “Dance Step Sheet” with the specific choreography that Dan and Kelly Alboro created. In fact, there were a bunch of places that listed this dance and described the steps. Poking around the websites that hosted such sheets, I found that this is a whole thing. Please pardon my ignorance here since I’m sure many people reading this post know more about such things than I do, but the concept of choreographing a few eight counts of a partner dance and naming it was completely new to me.
My understanding from a relatively brief perusal of these sites is that there is a branch of country dancing similar to line dancing where someone choreographs a number of eight counts using a specific vocabulary, teaches it at an event, and then a whole group of people can dance the same “dance.” The most experience I’ve had with these personally is Wedding Line Dances, but it seems like a fun experience. Doing this kind of dance with a partner rather than the individual line dances I’ve seen in the past feels like a great way to become more comfortable as a partner dancer. In any case, I’ll put a bunch of links at the bottom of this post to sites written by people who know a lot more about this than I do.
Back to the original question: Another answer is that some of the “Dance Step Sheets” for “Sea Shells” list an alternate song that it can be danced to. The song they list is “jumpin’ the jetty” by Coastline. Now, this is a song that shouts Swing to me and is considerably faster (126BPM) than “Blue Night.” So that blows my original thought out of the water. Here is a search for swing songs between 124 and 128BPM. Unsurprisingly, there is no overlap between this list and the one I generated for “Blue Night.” I suspect someone who knows the choreography well can probably dance it to any reasonably consistent 4/4 music at a wide range of tempos. For those who are less expert, there is perhaps an advantage to being on the slower side and having strong phrasing. And I’m sure there are plenty of folks who only want to dance this particular dance to the music that they learned it to in the first place. But as I’ve said repeatedly, I’m way out of my depths here, so if someone who actually knows something about this kind of dancing would care to jump in and help me out, please do.
The last thing I wanted to say about this subject is that I’ve had several requests to support country and line dances on the site. I plan to enable the more traditional country partner dances once I get past some infrastructure issues that are currently blocking me from adding a bunch of new dances. I’m confident I can do that and seed the lists from reliable sources to get something up and running despite my lack of specific knowledge of those dances. Then, hopefully members of the community who know more about those dances can add more. Please let me know if you’re interested in this feature. The more people raise their hands for this feature, the faster it will move up my TODO list.
I hadn’t devised a method for handling line dances before this, partly because I assumed they were all choreographed to a single song. It didn’t seem like the system I’d built would handle that very well. But based on this experience, I’ve come up with a way to “support” line dances without adding code. I’ll throw it out there, and if anyone wants to start adding line dances to the database, I’ll document it more closely and possibly even add some code to make the experience smoother. The idea is pretty simple. Just add a comment with a quoted version of the name of the line dance to the song. Then, people can search on that and get a list of songs to line dance to. Here’s the search for “Sea Shells,” which returns the two songs I’ve discussed in this post.
I will dig myself out of the rabbit hole for now and see if I can make some progress on the infrastructure issue I mentioned above.
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Some interesting links related to the Western Partner dances:
DiceMemory Parter / Circle Dances
CoutryDancingTonight – 10 Popular Partner Country Dances
https://www.copperknob.co.uk/search?Search=Blue+night+cha&Beat=-1&Level=Any&Wall=-1&Lang=Any&SearchType=Any
Blue Night Cha line & partner dance
music is a rumba or slow cha cha
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Thanks, Paul! When I ran across copperknob while researching this post, I didn’t realize how extensive the database is. Impressive. And although I noticed that “rumba box” was part of the vocabulary for these dances, I didn’t take the next step to recognize that “Country Rumba” is a dance as well.
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I’m a ballroom dance instructor and now a line dance instructor also. There is an overlap between both dance styles. In line dance we do preset linedance elements in our choreography such as vine, weave, shuffle, Lindy, K Step, V Step etc there are 75 or more step elements but most all dances about a dozen common steps. It helps to learn the terminology. Also every ballroom Latin and swing dance can have a line dance choreography. There are Waltz, Foxtrot, Tango, Rumba, Cha Cha, Swing, Salsa/Mambo, Merengue, Bachata etc.
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Not all line dances are to country music. There are Samba Line dances.
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The country party circle dance called El Paso is a cha cha to Neon Moon by Brooks & Dunn
El Paso Partner Dance
El paso – Couple circle dance
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Thank you so much for answering my question! Your response was fantastic. I now see how I can use advanced searches to find dances with specific tempos, styles, and more. Partnered line sequence dancing is definitely very popular. My husband and I are a music duo, performing live for various dance groups here in Western Australia, so I’m coming at this from the music side of things.
I also reached out to the choreographer of Blue Night Dance, and he was kind enough to give me a dozen examples of songs that work well with his choreography. It’s fascinating to see how the same dance can be performed to different music across various genres, depending on the teacher’s musical preferences!
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Locally, we typically have 4 to 6 social ballroom line dances in a 3-hour dance. They are all specific, choreographed steps that are taught to or learned by the dancers and each line dance is danced to only one particular song.
The line dances are:
2-Wall Samba danced to Jazz Machine – singles El Paso danced to Neon Moon, couples Cha Cha Circle danced to Anna Dai Capelli Rossi – couples, alternating in a round Boot Scootin Boogie danced to Boot Scootin Boogie – singles River Waltz danced to Someone Must Feel Like a Fool Tonight – couples Cupid Shuffle danced to Cupid Shuffle – singles Electric Slide danced to Electric Slide – singles
They have become very popular and participated in by many dancers. We also had a local dance instructor couple teach a 1 day a week class, 8-weeks long on just these Social Ballroom Dances.
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